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chief correspondent ali velshi. >> alison, i have no idea whether we'll get a fiscal cliff deal done or not. i do have a pretty good idea as to how we got into this gigantic pickle in the first place. >> now we've passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts when then president george w. bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans, but it's a deal with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient, but costly to government expire in ten years time. >> both houses of congress have now passed a package of tax relief that will protect the middle class. >> when it came time for the cuts to expire, the u.s. is just emerging from the worst recession since the great depression. so president obama agreed to extend the tax cuts for two more years in exchange for congress extending federal emergency unemployment benefits. those cuts are expensive. if they're extended by 2020, the bush-era tax cuts will be responsible for more than half the total national debt. democrats insist that taxes go up for the wealthy but stay in place permane
's pushing to get this fiscal cliff stuff done. speaker boehner took issue, won't surprise you either, with the president's appearance, in particular the president saying wait i have offered $1 trillion worth of cuts, i offered two to one spending cuts and here's what boehner had to say -- the president's comments are ironic as a recurring theme of our negotiations was his unwillingness to agree to anything that would require him to stand up to his own party. needed cuts and reforms that the president agreed to last year were no longer on the table as he cited an inability it to sell them to democrats. somebody is inflexible here. >> he accuses the president of the failure of leadership and in these days when somebody in washington uses the word leadership what they are meaning is caving in and bringing you own party along. i think the president was very clear in this interview that his strategy all along he is not going to be drawn into these negotiations because the white house thinks that one of the biggest mistakes of his presidency was doing exactly that in 2011. >> on the other
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. but this is really important, this fiscal cliff is an important element in economic recovery, i hope we get it done. >> cross the aisle. republican congressman tom cole says a deal, any deal, will be hard to get done. >> there's not enough revenue in this package whatever the, quote, number is to fix the fiscal problems for the country. we're going to be in hand to hand warfare beginning in january with the continuing resolution, the debt ceiling and to try and deal with spending issues. >> continued uncertainty about tax and spending policies in 2013 could result in another recession. frustration seems to be the operative word tonight. if no fiscal cliff deal is reached, most everyone's taxes will go up tuesday with deep spending cuts kicking in. earlier i spoke with a democratic and republican strategist. maria cardona and anna navarro. they seemed to echo the sentiment of the voters. >> this is like, when you at the beginning of the year and you're in school at the beginning of the year, you get assigned a big project and you leave it until the last night. when i used to do that, my parents used
about 2016. but it's because -- >> right. >> because the fiscal cliff. i'm done with that until we get some news. >> i think that's a lot of name recognition, don't you? people also, rand paul, for example, very dynamic on television. people recognize him and his energy and his different ideas, so he stands out. but it also is a reflection of the fact that the republican party doesn't -- has an identity crisis. these are people who are moderates and iconic class and very far out on the edges. that doesn't speak to a party that really has a clear leader or a central ideology to speak to. >> and won't until it gets a nominee. the next time we'll know what the republican party is about, maybe, when they get a nominee, right? >> well, you can get the contours of a debate if people really don't have one. remember bill clinton campaigning in the late '80s and early 1990s building a consistent case for the democratic party that was in some ways in worst shape than republicans are now. >> that took two gigantic strokes of luck. one was that mario cuomo did not run for the nomination and ross p
a little while ago even if a fiscal cliff deal is done, the battle between the white house and congressional republicans is far from over. >> i think there's going to be a whole new field of battle when the debt ceiling rolls around. >> all right. let's dig a little bit deeper with ryan lizza. he's washington correspondent for the new yorker magazine. also ali velshi our chief correspondent is joining us. deal or no deal? >> looks like from what dana is reporting, that a deal is in sight. republicans are saying they're going to have a vote tonight. looks like a deal is done. >> with the senate. >> we don't know what the house will do. and the last time john boehner tried to put something on the floor, his caucus rebelled. he'd have to let the house vote its will. >> but you agree if the president of the united states supports it, most of the house democrats will support it. so you don't need a majority of the republicans, you need a few republicans to get to that magic number of 218. >> exactly. obama and pelosi seem to have a firm grasp on the house democrats. it's just a
security will now go up to 6.2% of your salary. lawmakers have been so consumed by the fiscal cliff that it appears little was done to extend the 2010 payroll tax cuts, put in place by president obama two years ago in order to boost the economy. so what does it mean to your wallet? here is how much less you'll bring home if it expires. paychecks shrink $50 a month for those earning $30,000 a year. it shrinks $83 a month for those earning $50,000 a year. and $167 a month for those earning $100,000 a year. now, let's switch to the fiscal cliff. and what that is going to cost you. without a deal, you'll be paying lots more in tachxes. say you're single and working hard, you don't have kids, you earn $80,000 a year. if it does not go into effect, you'll pay an additional $3,000 more than what you already pay in taxes. the middle class families will get hit harder, two kids, both parents work. together you earn $80,000 a year. guess what, if there is no deal, you would owe $6,000 more in taxes next year. with so many variables, the question is how is wall street reacting? the stock marke
. neither chamber in session. an eerie calm since the fiscal cliff only congress has the power to avert is less than one week away. from their home, senate democratic leaders is trying to figure out if the president's scaled back bill can pass congress at the 11th hour. >> there is absolutely no reason, none, not to protect these americans from a tax hike. at the very least, let's agree right now on what we already agree on. let's get that done. >> reporter: but to get that done, democrats first would likely need nearly ten senate republicans to cross party lines and vote to effectively increase taxes on the top 2% of americans. some conservatives be grudgingly now say they're willing to do that. >> if we get done to twn to thed that's the only choice, i would support that. but i wish we would have a comprehensive bill that dealt with spending you can entitlements and taxes and you would together. >> reporter: the senate returns to work thursday, but democratic sources say their best realistic chance of getting gop votes is when the pressure will really be on, at or close to december 31
gloomy about the chances for a compromise deal on the fiscal cliff. >> nine days to get a deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady attended today's service. the president has said inouye was his earliest political inspiration. >>> many gun shop owners say sales have been booming. thousands of north texans visited local gun shows and stores this weekend where the most powerful weapons are costing more than ever. a gun dealer told our affiliate that an assault style weapon ran around $900. this week anywhere from 1500 to $2500 many in just a few minutes my conversation with a gun shop owner, several former police officers and a school safety expert who says the current call for bringing guns into schools for safety is in his words, borderline insane. >>> an estimated 87 million ameri
. >> thanks. >>> despite all the hand-wringing over the fiscal cliff, investors haven't melt much pain. that doesn't mean if won't get ugly on wall street if we don't have a deal soon. cnn's alison kosik looks at the consequences. >> reporter: don, with wall street focused squarely on the fiscal cliff, there is little incentive for investors to move stocks higher so stocks ended lower for the fifth session in a row friday with the dow tumbling 158 points. this slide began last week when speaker boehner was unable to bring his plan b. to a vote. that would have avoided the fiscal cliff. but he wasn't able to bring that to a vote. that made investors lose confidence, and since then, nothing really concrete has happened with the fiscal cliff to convince investors that a deal can get done. so at this point, the market doesn't really want a band-aid or so-called framework deal. in fact, one trader told me that it would almost be better if we went over the cliff, because that would give the markets some certainty. they would at least know what to expect. that is, of course, instead of a band
about getting anything done before we reach that fiscal cliff. listen to what he said. >> the speaker just has a few d days left to change his mind, but i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> let me kind of lay out the state of play. i'll try to keep it out as much as possible. this is something everybody is focused on. the ball is in the senate's court right now. so what senator reid, who you saw earlier, and the president, what they are trying to figure out is whether or not they can craft what the president called a scaled-back bill, which is what he campaigned on. raising taxes for everybody making more than $250,000 a year and adding a few other tax-related items in there. maybe spending but it's unclear. the question is whether or not they can put all that together in a way to get enough republican votes in order to pass the senate and then would have to have enough votes to pass the house as well. whether they can do that in the next few days is an open question. >> just procedurally too, that takes time. and congress notorious
. >>> some washington lawmakers sound gloomy about the chances for a compromise deal on the fiscal cliff. >> nine days remain to get the deal done. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama in hawaii. >>> today we say aloha to an american hero, the late senator daniel inouye was remembered with full military honors in hawaii. the 88-year-old senator lost his arm in world war ii, he represented hawaii in washington for more than 50 years. president obama and the first lady attended today's service. the president has said inouye was his earliest political inspiration. >>> many gun shop owners say sales have been booming recently. some link that to concerns the president may impose new restrictions on firearms. thousands of north texans visited local gun shows and stores this weekend where the most powerful weapons are costing more than ever. a gun dealer told our affiliate wfaa that an assault-sometime weapon like an ar-15 a week ago ran around $900. this week anywhere from diagnosis 1,500 to $2,500. in just a few minutes my conversation with a gun shop owner, several former police
it done. look, i don't think it would be the end of the world if we go off the fiscal cliff. and it think it would be resolved in the weeks ahead. but this is kind of a black eye for the political system. here we are, two or three days ahead from the start of the year. without any american business investor, or worker, this just is not a very good way to run a country. and it is almost like banana republic politics. >> my dad used to say, no way to run a railroad. or government. let's talk about a couple of things, the whole idea that tax rates on everyone will go up. does the irs or the treasury department have the ability to sort of say look, here is some guidance? keep withholding where it is? >> well, the irs is in turmoil right now. they don't know what to do. they're putting out kind of mixed signals about whether they can get the tax forms done. whether they can advise businesses what to do. now i do think, the people that are really worried, the middle class people worried about their taxes going up. i do think if we get it solved in the next few days, there is a chance we get a r
might get done on fixing the fiscal cliff before we all fall off. sources tell us senator harry reid is trying to cram through a scaled back version of the obama cliff plan from almost week. the house is still out. after the gop went into recess last week after the gop didn't have enough support to pass its own plan "b." congress has very little time, though, five days to be exact to come up with some kind of a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. it may already be too late with the way things work on capitol hill. let's bring in jonathan allen, the senior washington kpon for politico. jonathan, let's get to that. i think if everything lines up they could possibly get a deal signed from the fiscal cliff but when does that ever happen? >> yes, i think the problem, drew, there isn't that much time when congress has a consensus they can move quickly but there's no indication of that right now. all of the players seem locked into their strategies. for folks familiar with economic theory, this is a nash equilibrium. they believe given what the other folks are doing their pursuing their optimal
for an 11th hour fiscal cliff showdown. just four days remain to got a deal done or massive tax hikes and spending cuts kick in on tuesday. >>> the u.s. embassy clearing out of an african nation this morning. deteriorating security has forced the u.s. state department to temporarily success spend operations. the country's president has asked france and the u.s. to help stop rebel advances that thre threaten. >>> the jockeying has begun. massachusetts congressman ed markey throwing his hat into the ring. kerry's seat expected to become vacant if he goes on to become secretary of state and that is expected. a special election would be held early this summer. >> mom and pop shops across the country are bracing for a labor fight that could cripple their business. more on the key workers that could walk off the job. >>> plus, dr. mcdreamy to the rescue. patrick dempsey steps in to try and save hundreds of jobs. we'll tell you how. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin'
of avoiding this fiscal cliff, well, they become slimmer and slimmer and slimmer. >> except they better get something done. if they don't get something done, just about everybody will have a tax increase and see spending cut starting january 1st. what is preventing lawmakers from reaching a deal in representative jack kingston is a republican from georgia. he joins us now from d.c. congressman, good to see you. thank you for being with us. let's just discuss this for a minute. you know, taxes, whether taxes should go up or not is an interesting concept because some people are just religious about it, right? we talked to steven moore, grover norquist, pat toomey. some just think taxes should never go up on people. others think if you increase taxes it will hurt the economy. that may actually have some truth to it. but there's a tone deafness out there that has now superseded all of this, congressman, and it is -- we just heard mitch mcconnell, i don't know why people say things like this, but they make people wonder about legislators saying on the floor of the senate, i worked all day saturd
work done? tell us a little bit about the fiscal cliff here. we know the senate is going to come back on thursday. do we expect the presidt to come back to washington and deal with trying to avoid these tax increases and the spending cuts? >> it really does sound like he'll be coming back, suzanne. it is not official. the white house hasn't put out a schedule update. it seems to be more a matter of when he is coming back rather than if. the senate will reconvene thursday. all eyes there as senate majority leader harry reid tries to cobble together something that can get some republican support. we'll be waiting to see exactly when president obama is coming back but we understand that the senate even though it reconvenes on thursday may not, senate democrats may not roll out a bill until closer to the new year. also get some republican support and put pressure on the house to take it up. >> we'll be following that very closely. have a wonderful christmas and of course we'll talk with you a little bit later. if there are any developments on the fiscal cliff. stay with cnn for any moveme
that they are getting something done, the fiscal cliff meeting at the white house right now. what were the mechanics of rushing the deal through congress and getting it passed into law? what would that look like in four days? lisa desjardins joins us now. what will it look like? >> well, there is a couple of possibilities, don. one is that they take sort of the remnants of one of the bills that passed the house or the senate and they just change it. they add whatever is in this deal to it. they have a whole bunch of vehicles that are possible for that. one sticking point, because this deal would most likely deal with taxes, there is a rule in the constitution that is has been interpreted by most every side to determine it has to begin in the house, revenue measures begin in the house. they need a bill that starts in the house, okay, they have a lot to do that. then the trick is making sure they have the votes. i think if we see anything come out of tonight's meeting, anything substantial, that's what is going to happen this next day and a half. leaders on both sides have to make sure they have got t
try to work out on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the deadline is less than 48 hours away and as to whether they can get it done, the president says he's hopeful. >> i'm modestly ll lly optimis an agreement can be achieved. let's make sure that middle class families and the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> both houses of congress are meeting in a rare sunday session. the house an hour later at 2:00. our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin now with the look at a chance for a deal and what's on the table. >> alison, here in washington, there is still hope a deal can be cut in time to avert the fiscal cliff. on saturday, the president was at work here in the white house but all eyes were on the senate where negotiators were trading deal points and revenue figures to try to reach an agreement all sides can stomach. the baseline for the president, any bipartisan bill would have to extend unemployment insurance that would affect some 2 million americans and increase taxes for the highest income earners. but negotiators ca
the fiscal cliff, and that's what our focus issen ob this morning. for his part, president obama says he's modestly optimistic they can work things out. even if a deal is thrown together, senator harry reid says what they come up with could be imperfect and some people aren't going to like it. bringen in independent new york stock exchange trader joining us from new york. good to see you. >> good to see you, alison. thanks for having me. >> as you said, washington has been kicking the can down the road. so what are the chances of a real deal going through at the very last minute? things sound a little more optimistic last night, if you listened to president obama. >> i think they have to sound optimistic. the last thing they want to do is not sound optimistic. here's the problem. we've come right to the 11th hour. the fact there's going to be a substantive deal that comes out in the 11th hour is probably nailed to zero. in my sense, it's easier to go over the cliff. then there's clarity, right? taxes up, spending cut. the market will know what is going to happen. it can only get better f
to work now, businesses are a little more confident. but this is really important. this fiscal cliff san important element in economic recovery. i hope we can get it done. >> i think everybody out there agrees that they hope you get this done, a lot of frustration out there as you can imagine, i'm sure you hear it as well. thank you. thank you for joining us. i appreciate it. back to you. >> dana bash, as always, appreciate that insight. >>> if the government does go over the fiscal cliff, you know what the rest of the world is going to feel it as well. we will tell you how and where, coming up. ♪ if loving you is wrong ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. >>> all day i we have been following developments on the fiscal cliff talks. right now, senate leaders at an impasse over tax hikes and they are running out of time n just two days, those massive tax hikes and spending cuts will kick n so, let's go now to jessi
cliff goes off and nothing is done to adjust it. individuals now getting $45,000 back in '82 when first enarngted which is a lot different than $45,000 today. so if individuals earning $45,000 today might be impacted by additional taxes by this amt if something's not done. and, again, this is just a way to try to -- the problem with the amt is it wasn't adjusted for inflation so as time went on and prices have gone up and people have made more money and inflation has gone into place, things have not adjusted for the what the amt is now currently so this is going to be a big piece and those in the finance world are looking at making sure that this thing doesn't come into play. come 2014, people will have a big surprise if they file their taxes and this amt is not adjusted. >> ryan, look into the future which is ten days. do you think a deal will be done? >> what we're going to have, we're going to have a short-term deal. bottom line is if these spending cuts are way too extensive. the medicare cuts, way too extensive to put together in ten days. they haven't done enough to get that far.
the fiscal cliff. it's a cliff that lawmakers built. they set the tuesday deadline, they knew it was coming for more than a year. but even now, they have done little to agree to a package before that time. keeping them honest, the people in this building have known what's coming on tuesday, yet they're only returning to this building to get back to work just now. senators came back yesterday. house members, well, they woet be back until sunday. this afternoon, house and senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards, president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner who had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority and minority leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell to work out a deal and then present it to a house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, and i have asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on th
is that most people here think that if anything is going to get done before the fiscal cliff deadline, that it won't happen until the pressure is on, on or around december 31st. that's practically and probably why what we saw today was suspended animation. this is one place in washington free of gridlock.baristas are writing the words, "come together" on customers' coffee. >> people are tired that congress can't come to a compromise or agree on anything. >> reporter: but even that doesn't seem to be moving lawmakers. >> taxes are approaching the wrong direction. come the first of this year, americans will have less income than they have today. >> reporter: senate democratic leader harry reid, back from christmas break, was highly pessimistic about passing anything to avert the fiscal cliff and keeping all americans' taxes from going up january 1st. >> i have to be very honest, mr. president. i don't know, time wise, how it can happen now. >> five days until the fiscal cliff, and both sides are engaged in legislative and political chicken. the president called each of the four congress
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morning talk show. the president is giving an interview to nbc's "meet the press." the fiscal cliff and the president's plan to avoid it are expected to be the main focus of that interview. >>> investors on wall street are nervous about the looming fiscal cliff deadline which is just three days away on. friday, stocks closed lower for a fifth day in a row ending the week down by 2%. >>> the conservative wave that swept the tea party into power two years ago may be headed back out. as the country teeters on the fiscal cliff, some tea partiers seem ready to compromise on taxes. here's jim acosta. >> reporter: for the tea party, change is brewing on capitol hill. florida republican alan west who rode the tea party wave in congress two years ago only to be swept out in november has already lost its office which is being prepped by painters for its new occupant. >> they say he's an outsider, a reformer. >> reporter: another tea partier, kansas congressman tim huleskamp, was booted from his seat on the budget committee he believes to john boehner wanted to send a message, to get in line f
, your taxes go up $3,000. if nothing is done to avert the fiscal cliff. if you make $104,000, doing pretty well, you see your taxes go up $6200. if you make $400,000 a year, you see taxes go up over $9,000. that's overnight. the bush tax cuts sunset if we don't do anything to variety the fiscal cliff. this is something that the president and republicans agree on. they agree 98% of the americans shouldn't have taxes raised, but that 2% disagreement brings us to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> the ceo of starbucks says, hey, you know what? let's write on our coffee cups "come together." do you think anybody will pay attention to that in washdz? >> you know what? anything and everything helps. just merely spreading the message america is watching and waiting for congress to act to find a way to reason together, that's an important act, and everyone doing their part can do, i say good on him. we need to send this message to washington and make sure it isn't settled. we'll go deeper into this tonight at 7:00 as well. this is urnlggent. the clock is ticking, suzanne. >>> many american fa
spending, what do you do? >> set the fiscal cliff aside for one moment. you've done extensive research on recovery from recessions. where are we in the current recovery? what in your estimation does 2013 look like from an economic standpoint. >> fairly normal from world war ii financial crisis, housing recovers on cue five or six years later. the good news is that there's stable underlying growth. the bad news is you don't get the zoom you got out of it during the depression. >> we're in year five of a seven year process. >> more than seven years. >> last time you were here you said we were half way through regardless of who wins in 2012. the next four years would not look much better than the past four years. >> we're going to have, i don't know if not very much better than the past four but we're not going to have fantastic growth. unemployment will take many more years to feel normal, so we have many years left in the recovery but hopefully in two or three years we feel like we're moving there and not at the starting point. >> let's talk about the global picture here. you have slow
this -- the president wants this country to go off the fiscal cliff, to have a sunset when it comes to our fiscal situation is that really what's going on here? lawmakers are on vacation, so will anything get done in time? >>> lots of people on vacation, dana. a winter storm may be headed your way. for all of the people traveling, 93 million americans on trains, planes, and automobiles. what it means for your holiday travel plans. good morning, welcome to "starting point." chilly in new york city. 7:00 in the morning. i'm alina cho in new york. >> and i'm dana bash in washington. monday, december 24th. christmas eve. "starting point" begins right now. >> and our "starting point," a u.s. contractor in kabul gunned down and killed this morning by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. it happened inside kabul's police headquarters. the latest in a string of suspected green on blue attacks that are hitting morale and eroding trust in allies there. our pentagon correspond respondent barbara starr up early for us working her sources. joins us live from washington with more. >> good morning, alina.
. >>> president obama heading back to washington to tackle the fiscal cliff today. he will get to d.c. just as the house and senate expected to reconvene tomorrow. not much time left for a notoriously slow-moving washington to get something done. brianna keilar following the drama from honolulu, hawaii. she's there with the president. what is the latest. >> president obama is officially cutting short his christmas vacation and heading back from hawaii. tonight, hawaiian time, early in the morning on the east coast and returning to the d.c. area on thursday. as the senate is set to reconvene and all eyes really are looking there to see what senate majority leader harry reid can cobble together in order to get republican support to avoid the fiscal cliff. he'll also have to put together something that will get republican support in the house. this is a last-ditch effort and will be obviously very difficult if it succeeds at all. at this point, the white house still wants that threshold for income tax rates to be at 250,000. it's unclear, exactly what the senate proposal is going to look like.
in love with progressive's claims service. >>> the deadline to make a deal and avoid the fiscal cliff less than 48 hours away now. the senate and the house convening this afternoon for a rare sunday session with the hopes of reaching a vote possibly tonight. but can they really get a deal done? yesterday i spoke with sheila, the former chairman of the fdic and she's been through some tough negotiatiions before. this is what she had to say about the chances of a deal and what might be included. >> this should have been resolved long ago and i do think, actually, they are going to get a deal, but i think more along the lines down the road. at least at this point that we'll get meaningful deficit reduction, certainly not meaningful tax reform. i do think, though, perhaps a permanent extension of the lower tax rates for those making at least under $500,000. the payroll tax cut on the other hand will go away, i think, is highly unlikely and that is going to impact a lot of workers. i think they will make some decisions this weekend and a good chance that it will pass and become law. that is the
children's motrin. be ready with children's motrin. >>> you may have heard of the fiscal cliff described as a self-inflicted wound, a manufactured crisis. that just means it didn't come out of the blue. the bottom line is this. whatever happens we have done it to ourselves. cnn's ali velshi shows us how we got here. >> now we have passed a bold package of tax relief for america's families and businesses. >> it starts more than a decade ago when president bush initiated a series of tax cuts for all americans. but it's a deal with with the devil. the cuts, which are politically expedient but costly to government, expire in ten year's time. >> both houses of congress have passed tax relief that will protect the middle class. >> when it came time for the cuts to expire, the u.s. was emerging from the worst recession since the great depression. so president obama agreed to extend the tax cuts for two more years in exchange for congress extending federal emergency unemployment benefits. those cuts are expensive. if they are extended by 2020, the bush era tax cuts will be responsible for more t
what that means, and how would that make the fiscal cliff negotiations different? >> yeah. the vast majority of our decision-making happens the at an automatic, unconscious level. the challenge and the problem -- i'm talking about most of our thinking. the challenge we have with that regard is the fact that most of the filtering system that we have that makes those decisions was put in place for us when we were small children. as a result, really smart people can make really dumb decisions, or grown-ups can behave childishly. if a leader is more conscious of the patterns, they can cut them off and maintain a great degree of consciousness and therefore maturity in making decisions and acting on those. >> but we see both sides really dug in. we now seem to be in an impasse. are you saying that there's childish behavior? we take about transformative leadership perspective. how do you advocate and advise, let's say, speaker boehner and president obama? how do we move past that? >> you know, one of the fundamental problems we run into when we think about the unconscious is the fact we're
open after the fiscal cliff and i'll throw a second number, one week until the new congress begins, so they are hard up against some big deadlines. >> the market implication is important because markets have done very, very well this year, lisa, and there's some suggestion if congress doesn't get it together before the new year, markets may force them to do so. we'll be talking more about that later in the show. lisa, thanks so much. we'll check in with you later. >>> piling on the concerns, treasury secretary tim geithner has warned congress hat u.s. will reach its debt ceiling on monday. that is when the government reaches its legal borrowing limit. now, this could pose a bigger threat to the nation's credit rating than the fiscal cliff. treasury can keep the government operating for a few weeks using emergency measures, but congress needs to act on this too to avoid a full-blown debt crisis. alina cho. joins us with the ret of the top stories. >>> former president george h.w. bush remains in intensive care in a houston hospital with an elevated fever. he is on a liquid diet an his c
the fiscal cliff and anything other than that is absolute irresponsibility you congressional malpractice. >> any deal? in other words, say some sort of temporary fix or have to be that long-term overhaul? >> i don't think -- at this point, beggers can't be choosers. i don't think we are going to get a grand bargain. i don't think we are going to get a big deal with long-term stuff a lot of people object to that, they will call that kicking the can down the road, you know what martin, they are absolutely right. once again, we will kick the can down the road, but that's what happens, when you back yourself into a corner, we did this with the debt ceiling, we did this with the government shutdown, the way we do business now, we should get used to it, that's how things are done t is the 11th hour we need an 11th hour deal. 11th hour deals are never particularly good. everybody is going to give something up. i just hope they all prepare to give something up and get a deal. it is not going to be pretty. i will be here the whole time, i will be here monday morning to see what markets do >> real
the fiscal cliff. 48% of those polled say a deal is not likely. that optimism is waning, though when the poll was done earlier this month, 59% said a deal was likely. >>> former braves great andruw jones is free on a $2,500 bond this morning after being arrested outside of atlanta. he was arrested on a battery charge. the gwinnett county detention center said there was a domestic dispute between he and his life. >>> the number of extremely obese preschoolers has dropped slightly over the last decade, according to the centerses for disease control and prevention. researchers called the decline modest but say it's encouraging. the cdc adds that part of the decrease could be attributed to awareness campaigns that encourage physical activity and healthy eating. >>> before heading back to d.c. to try to avoid heading off the fiscal cliff, president obama and the first lady kept up a christmas tradition. they visited marines at a base in hawaii thanking them for their service. mrs. obama and their daughters, by the way, won't cut short their vacation. they're staying in hawaii while dad flies home.
now a potential agreement to keep us from falling off the fiscal cliff. jessica yellen at the white house with some details. what are you learning? >> reporter: hi, suzanne. first of all, there is an emerging deal here, but it is still not done. it is in progress. there's a sense of sort of optimism that this will come to closu closure. what we know about this deal right now is that it would allow for earners at the very top to let their tax rates go back to clinton levels. so that is what was set to happen in the new year anyway. it only hits the very top earners. then the next level of the deal, households that earn $450,000 are the ones impacted by this. individuals who earn $400,000 a year are the ones who would see it go to clinton levels. the deal -- the emerging deal would also include as i understand an extension of unemployment benefits and a compromise on the estate tax that would allow a slight increase or something of an increase from where we are now but not an absolute jump to where it would be beginning tomorrow. now, if there were no deal. the big sticking point as d
for for years and he gets to blame republicans for it. >> that's obviously jon talking about the fiscal cliff. but he also said yesterday that he thinks that the whole concept of putting any armed police officers at schools should be done at the local level, if at all. the big push at the nra is to make it a federal program and it should be funded by the federal government by congress. so it does not look like there's going to be a lot of support for that right now. i've been struck talking to republicans sources. republican sources at how turned off a lot of people were by wayne louisiana pair. more so with the tone and the way he delivered the message. i talked to one republican in congress who said that it seemed like it was a time war. he was very aggressive and he didn't seem to be sort of getting the sentiment of where we are now. >> so listening to lindsey graham saying there's not much we can do to stop someone who is not wired right and talking to the number of lawmakers that you have talked to, after the first of the year when dianne feinstein says she's going to introduce this bill
. the talks are aimed at preventing us from going over the fiscal cliff and they are not making a lot of progress. the two sides are talking, and that is the good news. that is the best that can be said for what is happening on capitol hill. if you wished that the deadline would push the democrats and the republicans to get to a deal, we are still, don, waiting for that to happen. i suspect that i have a better chance of growing hair than we have of getting a deal tonight. >> yes, probably. i mean -- [ laughter ] -- you are right, pretty pictures, and that is about it at this point, and nothing pretty is happening right now, because, ali, in less than 30 hours before we go over the fiscal cliff, and it is not clear whether a last-minute deal is even possible or whether this is going to be all about shifting blame. i want you to listen to senate majority leader harry reid. >> with 36 hours left until the country goes over the cliff, i remain hopeful and realistic about the prospects of reaching a bipartisan agreement, and at some point in the negotiating process, it is obvious when the
america from going over the fiscal cliff. as the house and senate reconvene tomorrow. the clock is ticking. six days until the deadline. the way things work in washington, can they actually get something done before the end of the year? brianna keilar, what is the latest on this? >> hi, there, drew. president obama will be heading home from hawaii tonight, logical time arri arriving in d.c. thursday morning when the senate will be reconvenin reconvening, and the senate, all eyes on now, that we look for the last-ditch effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. even though the president is returning on thursday, we may not see the senate roll out its bill to deal with the fiscal cliff. perhaps for a couple of days. this is entirely possible we've learned from sources as senate majority leader harry reid works to get republican support in the senate, which he will need if he's going to pass a bill. and so we're still waiting to see exactly what it will look like that the white house wants for the threshold on income tax rates to cut off at $250,000. we will see if that ultimately is what senate major
until we hit the fiscal cliff. the president is cutting short his hawaiian vacation to go back to work. we'll look at whether a deal is likely to get done. >>> and not what people in alabama wanted for christmas. tornadoes ripped through the south. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could and i was just praying for my safety. and i knew that -- i prayed that the church stayed put. rsal] ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪ yeah who's it, who's it huh? ♪ ♪ willy's back with a brand new beat now, ♪ ♪ yeah doin' it doin' it up! ♪ heyyy yeah, tryin' to bite my style! ♪ ♪ heyyy yeah, how you like me now? ♪ ♪ na na na na na na na na ♪ and everybody go uh! >>> we told you last hour president obama is spending his last few hours in hawaii before returng early to washington. he's expected to arrive tomorrow, just five days ahead of the fiscal cliff, which includes an across the board tax hike that congress has tried but failed to undo. cnn's dana bash is with us from washington, our senior congressional correspondent. we spoke last hour. you told us that hour
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